The Home Secretary Shebana Mahmood has just told me that “Nigel Farage can sod off.” RP: “Nigel Farage has tonight said that he thinks you're auditioning to join Reform. But realistically what you're proposing is not going to woo hardcore Reform voters and you are going to alienate a lot of people on the left. Politically, this is not smart, is it?” SM: “Well, firstly, Nigel Farage can keep his opinions to himself. He can frankly sod off. I'm not interested in anything that he has to say. And let me just say to people of all political persuasions who are watching, I'm not making a political calculation here. I'm not making an election calculation here. It is my responsibility as the home secretary of this country who can see a broken system, to work out how to fix that broken system and to work out what is the right thing to do and then to go out there and make the argument for why these changes are the right thing to do for the right reasons. Because they will fix the problems that people genuinely see and genuinely are occurring, and in doing so, to retain support for having an asylum system at all. Everything else, that's politics, that’s downstream of all of the main choices that I'm making. My responsibility is to deliver a system that the whole of the country can have faith in.” Watch full interview soon on ITV’s Talking Politics, on YouTube and podcast platforms