There's some rat-adjacent cults that have actually insane juicy stories idk why people ignore those and try to act like the main scene is scandelous
I cannot express the degree to which the idea "rationality is a cult" is retarded. It is definitely weird, and that weirdness occasionally has costs! But it doesn't have the isolation or conformity required for the real damage of cults, at least not moreso than any scene
Anyway someone pls go write about the people who went thru isolated training and then started to see demons in the grocery stores
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